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 Post subject: [solved] Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Hello!

I use Navigatrix since years with no problems. I recently bought a EEbox. I downloaded the image file from Navigatrix.
I booted from the stick, and it starts the boot, but after a very short time it says The graphics devices are not recognized, running in low-graphics mode, and it goes to command prompt.
The message also says that I probaly need to install the drivers manually.
These are my components:
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/har ... omponents/

Currently I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and it runs fine (EEbox came with pre-installed Ubuntu).
How can I solve this problem, so I will be able to continue the installation?
Thanks!

Adrian, S\V Attila


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
barátom: Boot up the Ubuntu. From the terminal run
Code:
lsmod | grep vid
this will tell us the video module that it uses. (list modules and grab the video)

If it is i915 and not gma950; boot up Navigatrix and try:

Code:
sudo nano /etc/default/grub

Change the line: (It's about 10 lines down)

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash"


to

Code:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash nomodeset"

or, alternatively,

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash nouveau.blacklist=1"

or (sorry it's three options that might not work)

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash i915.modeset=0"

<ctrl><x> to write the file; <y> to save it.

then regenerate the GRUB configuration file:

Code:
sudo update-grub


Code:
sudo reboot


Give that a whirl.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Hey, Moe!

Thanks for the quick reply.
I got stuck at the first line :)
for lsmod | grep vid
I got video 191115 cedarwiev.gfx

Is that i915 or gma950?

Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
cedarview is actually the codename for the GMA3600 integrated chip,which is in the same lineage as gma950.

Now that it's nailed down better I'll see what I can dig up for you and get you going.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
Oh, it's looking grim, Adrian.

From Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_3600

And

Quote:
PowerVR based chips on Linux[/h] GMA 500, GMA 600, GMA 3600, GMA 3650 are PowerVR based chips incompatible with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator main architecture. There are no Intel supported FOSS drivers. The current available FOSS drivers (included in Linux 3.3 onwards) only support 2D acceleration (not 3D acceleration).


...sounds like they barely got it to run in Ubuntu.

I'll look again in the morning.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
That doesn`t sound very good...
Is there a way to find the necessary packages in the working Ubuntu installation, and copy them on the navigatrix stick to use them?


Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Hello, Moe!

I found this on Ubuntu`s site:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/it/precise-u ... cs-drivers

Can it be parts the solution?

Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
Would that it were that simple Adrian.

Most modules (drivers) are kernel dependent. Kernels are like the engine of a vehical and the modules are the things that get attached to it. For example I had a Perkins 4-107 in the boat. 5 years ago I replaced it with a 4-108. Many of the parts that I had from the 4-107 were exactly the same. Some were internally different but I still could attach them. A few, like the lift pump, went from a triangular base to a rectangular base and would work but could be only attached with 2 studs rather than 4. And then when I got around to the raw water manifold and exhaust everything was different. Now because my exhaust was different, my after market oil cooler had to be modified; blah, blah, blah...blah.

Navigatrix uses a custom built kernel (3.0.9-dsp [for digital signal processing]). Ubuntu's Precise uses 3.2something. Now, it might work; but chances are that it won't because some bright cookie figured out it was better to move that particular mount 6 mm to the right and my $360 cupronickel heat exchanger needed (another) custom mounting.

Reading around in other distribution's forums, and even in some Ubuntu forums, there has been a lot of difficulty. Some get it work but have no control over screen resolution or backllighting (screen brightness); others knock out their wifi when they install the module or their screen re-draws are very slow.

Interestingly Linux has been built in support for this chipset family since 2009...but only for 2D acceleration. Intel, the maker of the chipset is claiming Intellectual Property rights and won't provide the architecture of the chipset (which has slight changes from model to model). When asked for drivers they will tell you to go to the developers. When developers ask for source code Intel tells them they don't give out that information; it is Intellectual Property. [ Intel GMA 3600 or Hey Intel, why don't you do your job? or Ubuntu GMA 3600 driver...plus hundreds more.]

I chased down a post in one forum entitled "Intel PowerVR GMA 3600/3650 linux driver released!" When you follow the link through Intel's website it leads to a dead end. The files are no longer there.
Quote:
The file that you are trying to download has either been moved, renamed or archived.


Before it was removed someone snagged it. I took a look and the README said it was for the 3.10 kernel. I'll look at it in depth later.

However, in the interim try the first suggested fix:
boot up Navigatrix

Code:
sudo nano /etc/default/grub

Change the line: (It's about 10 lines down)

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash"


to

Code:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="max_loop=32 quiet splash nomodeset"


This will see if we can get it to fly on the built in support that has been there since 2009.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Hello, Moe!

Thank you very much for your patience.
I wanted a low-amp PC to use it with navigatrix, I thought I can`t go wrong if I buy one already with Linux on it....
This is what I get for assuming stuff :)
Is there any way of changing the vido card in this computer for a supported one?

I tried sudo nano /etc/default/grub

It asks for the password, i type nx, but the cursor doesn`t move, no little dots are visible
When i press enter it says sorry, no access.
tried passwords nx, navigatrix, root.
At the third try it came back with 3rd try...message.
If I type "ls". it lists only one folder: nx
there is no /home, no /etc nothing the like shown in that folder.

What is this thing with the password, and why there are no folders visible? Any ideas?

Thank you again.

Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Hello!

I am triing to run NX0.5 on my eeeBox. Everything looks fine, graphics working, but after a couple of minutes it stops booting from the USB.
It appears that it stops at the line "Checking battery state". The eeeBox does not have a battery, so he can not get answer for this, so the boot just stops there.
Is there any way of disabling the Battery check during booting?

Thanks, Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
Try booting it with older graphics

Hit <anykey> during the Blue boot screen....look under other options and the down to the proper line <enter>

The word on the street is that the hang is from trying to load the X server...the graphic bit...and not with the battery

See if you get further down the road.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
I tried to boot in older graphics mode.
Checking battery status - [ok]

and it does not move from there...

Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Meanwhile, I tried to run nx0.5 on my EeePC 900HA.
It freezes with the following message:

* Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]
* Stopping Send an event to indicate plymouth is up [ OK ]
dpkg-stateoverride: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
syntax error: unkown user 'mpd' in statoverride file
chown: invalid user: 'mpd:audio'
* Not starting MPD: disabled by etc/default/mpd.
* Stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon [ OK ]
* Stopping system V runlevel compatibility [ OK ]

Any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
Both machines fail to boot from the one stick? Right?

On boot hit <anykey>; arrow down to other options<enter> then arrow down to the checksum option and <enter>


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Check finised, with no errors found.
That`s my luck :)


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 04 Nov 2010, 20:51
Posts: 1062
I'm still looking Adrian.

I'm paging my way through the internet. I find a lot off EeePCs for sale. There is even a Linux distribution just for this family (http://www.eeebuntu.org/). It appears the video card is not the only thing problematic...but there are solutions. I just haven't found them yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
Thank you very much, Moe.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030
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Joined: 05 Nov 2010, 01:00
Posts: 185
Thats strange....works perfectly on my asus 900 ha. I did not test it but should even run on the eeebox. The cedarview graphic card driver is included.


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030

Joined: 21 May 2013, 14:53
Posts: 93
I will download the iso again, and try again.

Thanks for looking into it.
Adrian


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 Post subject: Re: Navigatrix on Asus EEBox EB1030
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Joined: 05 Nov 2010, 01:00
Posts: 185
Download next week or later...there will be some changes to the iso to improve compatibility soon. You can also check the md5 checksum of the whole iso. Should be the same as on the download page.


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